Friday, 22 September 2017

Changes in the numbers of contributors to the Hoverfly Recording Scheme

In the second provisional atlas published in 2011 we commented that just 20 people had contributed over 50% of the data to the HRS. At that point the number of photographic contributors was small but growing. Data from photographs largely came from Flickr and iSpot, and relatively few people contributed more than a few records each. In the intervening six years the landscape of biological recording has changed markedly, with a far bigger constituency of contributors.Stuart recently produced a nice illustration that shows some of the changes (Figure 1). For this analysis recorders have been defined as people who have submitted at least 50 records AND have made submissions in at least two year.
Figure 1. Numbers of recorders who have contributed 50 or more records over two or more years. The lower plot shows the number of such people per year from 1979 to 2014. By definition, "recorders" have to have been around for at least two years before they could be counted so the count is likely to be lower in the most recent years - hence the drop at the end. The top plot shows the number for which this is their first year of submission - i.e. new recorders.

These plots got me thinking about how the numbers work in terms of yearly contributions and the numbers involved in the HRS, year on year. Today, the total number of contributors exceeds 8,000 names going back to the 19th Century. I suspect that there will be some duplication where people use multiple aliases that I have not detected, but I doubt that this is significant. In recent years, the number of contributors has exceeded 1,000 individuals per season, but until the advent of the Facebook group many of these would have been single records from a photo posted on Flickr or other hosting systems. In the last couple of years the number of contributors has dropped quite markedly because I no longer find it time-efficient to search Flickr during the winter. So, the numbers of single entry contributors have dropped.

In order to get a feel for what is happening I assembled the data in three ways:
  • the number of recorders in each year who, between them, contributed 50% of the data for that year;
  • the total number of contributors in each year; and
  • the average number of records per contributor.
These graphs tell an interesting story:

Figure 2. The number of recorders whose combined efforts generated 50% of the records in a given year between 1975 and 2016.
Figure 3. Total number of contributors in each year between 1975 and 2016.


Figure 4. The average number of records per contributor between 1975 and 2016.
What these three supplementary graphs tell us is that there have been several events in the life of the HRS and that the composition of the recording community has changed.

In the 1970s and early 1980s records came from a very narrow spectrum of Dipterists, most of whom would have used microscopes and specimens and would either have relied upon Coe's key or possibly test keys for the first edition of Stubbs & Falk.

The publication of Stubbs & Falk led to an increase in recording activity and the arrival of a small number of very active recorders whose contributions meant that the average number of records per recorder jumped quite markedly. Several of that cohort continue to be active to the present day, with recruitment of new recorders relatively constant at around 12-15 new people per year until around 2006. This is the point in the process where Stuart and I started to ramp up our training programme and I think there is some evidence that it has had an effect. This also about the point where digital photography started to gain popularity and a new cohort of photographic recorders entered the system.

By 2008, the impact of digital photography is pretty clear. We cannot claim the rapid growth in contributors to have resulted from our courses. At best we have trained about 500 people in the past ten years and I would be amazed if more than 20% of trainees ever go on to do any serious recording (probably many fewer). So, the real changes have come from the advent of iSpot, Flickr and, latterly, the UK Hoverflies Facebook group.

The dip in the average number of records per recorder around 2011/2012 coincides with the period of greatest activity by me scanning Flickr for photographs that could be converted into records. Lots of single record recorders were created as a result. Meanwhile, the climb in the average over the following four years suggests a substantial change in the composition of the community with many more people making a serious effort to record hoverflies and to post their findings on the Facebook group. We can see this in the steep rise in the number of contributors making up 50% of the incoming data.

What is perhaps less obvious is that there are vastly more people who contribute 100 to 500 records per year. Figure 5 reveals just how this cohort has changed, and it is clear that the UK Hoverflies Facebook page has had the most dramatic impact on recording.

Figure 5. The numbers of contributors of 100 or more records in each season from 1975 to 2016.
What is especially noteworthy about Figure 5 is the degree to which numbers are comparatively constant between around 1987 and 2013. The big change has taken place from 2014 onwards and I think reflects a growing skill-base and interest that can only have come from the Facebook group. To my mind this demonstrates the potential of such media and the importance of engaging with wildlife enthusiasts through modern social media rather than by traditional routes.

Saturday, 16 September 2017

Autumn field meeting - Tarbet - some reflections

For more than 40 years there have been Autumnal field meetings organised, primarily, to survey the cranefly and fungus gnat faunas of the British Isles. Initially they were run by Alan Stubbs in his role as Head of Entomology at the Nature Conservancy Council. Upon Alan's retirement in 1991 there was no capacity to organise these meetings and they became a voluntary effort. Peter Chandler ran them for many years but decided to give up the role in 2004. I therefore stepped in and have run them in the subsequent years. My reason for doing so was not a great love of craneflies and fungus gnats, but instead a feeling that we would be losing a valuable event that has played a big part in our understanding of the autumnal fauna of the British Isles.

Initially, I followed the preceding model, which was a four-day event in mid to late October. The weather at this time is rather variable, so the dates have moved towards mid October starting on the second Saturday of the month or around 14 October (whichever is closer to the middle of the month). I also changed the format so that we spend a week in the field. My thinking is that there is that a lot of time is spent travelling and it is generally not practical to visit more northerly locations for just three or four day's fieldwork that might get rained off for part of the time. So, we now tend to go for a week, and often use two centres in order to improve coverage. Figures 1 & 2 show where we have been since 2004.

Figure 1. Autumn Field meeting coverage 2004 to 2012

Figure 2. Autumn field meeting coverage 2013 to 2017

Participants in the Autumn meeting are a fairly tight-knit group - very few people want to visit wet dank woods at the end of the season! So, in most years we only get six to eight participants. Also, we tend to attract people with interests in a wider range of disciplines; not just Diptera. I think this is very positive because the team makes a much broader contribution to the data on autumnal insects in far-flung parts of the country.

In a further change, I introduced the idea of supplementary meetings in late August or early September to cover Scotland where Autumn comes a lot earlier. Thus, in 2017 we found ourselves gathered at the Bay Tarbet Hotel on the west side of Loch Lomond. There were six of us: Peter Chandler (Fungus Gnat Recording Scheme), Alan Stubbs (Cranefly Recording Scheme), Andrew Halstead (Symphyta and many other Orders), Keith Alexander and Janet Lister (Saproxylic Coleoptera and Bark Bugs) plus me. On these trips I act as a parataxonomist and simply hoover vast numbers of Nematocera that I then sort into separate piles for Alan and Peter. I usually retain a residue of a few families such as Heliomyzids and Lauxaniidae and will of course log hoverflies when I come across them.

On this trip, hoverflies were comparatively abundant (figure 3) so I did assemble a reasonable number of records. Nevertheless, it is clear from the data that a small number of species made up the bulk of the records and that there was a comparative dearth of interesting species. That does not matter because coverage of common species can be useful and we did get a very good picture of what is flying at this time of year.
Figure 3. Numbers of records of hoverfly species recorded during the DF field meeting based at Tarbet from 8 to 15 September 2017.

In the course of six days (we lost one day to rain) we managed to visit 21 10km squares within a 50 mile radius of Loch Lomond (Figure 4)  and got a good feel for the fauna of the area. We visited a great many more 1km squares, often having to stop at two or more points within individual 10km squares in order to get anything like an adequate sample. Thus, the data I already have assembled covers more than 40 data points. Stopping points can rarely be considered to be sites; rather, they are points where it was possible to park the car and access suitable habitat. We tend to look for wooded streams and wetlands, as these are the most suitable for gnats and craneflies.

I think some of the ecological reflections are best left to a further post, as there is a need to try to interpret some of the results. Not all of the material has been worked-up and Peter has a large volume preserved in alcohol. Alan has done most of his specimens and tells me the species list is a bit over 50 species of cranefly and associates. There is one possible highlight - I took a specimen of a Tipula that Alan is unsure about. It may prove to be something that is already known but there is an outside chance that it is an addition to the British list - I wait in eager anticipation. Thankfully it is a male so it ought to be identifiable.

Figure 4. Locations visited during the 2017 DF meeting based at Tarbet. Note the three more southerly squares are visits made on the journey north on 7 September.



Sunday, 10 September 2017

Understanding Eristalis: some simple rules



Eristalis is one of the most frequently encountered hoverfly genera, with two species (E. tenax & E. pertinax) occurring almost entirely throughout the year. Four further species are common from April until October (E. arbustorum, E. hortiicola, E. intricaria & E. nemorum. The remainder are scarcer (E. abusiva & E. rupium) or vanishingly rare (E. cryptarum & E. similis).

Although widespread and often abundant, they are far from easy to identify but a few simple rules help to arrive at a diagnosis on many occasions. Nevertheless, even the most experienced specialist will stop short of making a firm diagnosis on those occasions where critical characters are unclear. It is important, therefore, to be aware of the limitations of what can be done and to err on the side of caution if critical characters are not adequately depicted. So, where should one start?

The first rule is to avoid making a diagnosis based solely on abdominal patterns or wing shades. Eristalis are infinitely variable in both respects and so these characters are rarely reliable diagnostic characters on their own. The complications arise because there is seasonal and sexual polymorphism in many species. Attention needs to be paid to the colour and shape of the legs, the extent of dusting on the face and the shape of the stigma on the wing. The other useful feature is the size of the animal, but judging this from photographs is always problematic so it is not terribly helpful in many cases where a photograph or series of photographs is involved.

The one exception is Eristalis intricaria which is a bumblebee mimic and is most frequently confused with Volucella bombylans and perhaps Merodon equestris. Unlike the latter two, E. intricaria has partially yellow hind tibiae and the scutellum is paler (the colour under the hairs and not the hairs themselves).

Leaving aside Eristalis intricaria, we need to think about a logical sequence of diagnosis. So, where to start?

There are two species with nice obvious characters that are usually visible if a sequence of photographs is taken from various angles: the colour of the front feet and the shape and colour of the hind tibia. So, to get started, we can say:

1a. Hind tibia completely dark (may be slightly paler towards the junction with the femur). Hind tibiae slightly curved and with feathering. Eyes with a strong band of dark hairs (visible in most good photos). ……………………………….Eristalis tenax
1b. Hind tibia partially yellow towards the junction with the femur (usually about 25% of the tibia). Eyes lack dark hair band …………….couplet 2

2a. Front and mid tarsi yellow or orange (beware occasionally muddy but never fully darkened on any segments). ……………………………….Eristalis pertinax
2b. Front and mid tarsi with some segments dark…….. couplet 3

3a. Wing with stigma tightly quadrate – not diffusing or extending towards the junction of vein R1 with the Costa. Face with a distinct un-dusted central stripe …………Eristalis nemorum
3b. Wing with more extended stigma …………………….Couplet 4

4a. Face completely dusted, hind metatarsus enlarged and stigma diffusing towards the junction of vein R1 with the costa …………………………….Eristalis arbustorum
4b. Face with obscure undusted stripe or with a distinct un-dusted stripe ………. Couplet 5

5a. Wing with a strong area of infuscation (clouding) that is often blackish in places …… Couplet 6
5b. Wing may be somewhat clouded, especially around the veins but lacking distinct clouds. This leads into the problem area where we often cannot be sure what we have.

6a. Hind metatarsus dark. Wing cloud distinct but not extensive …….. Eristalis horticola
6b. Hind metatarsus pale yellowish. Wing cloud often extensive and dark …….. Eristalis rupium

From this point on, life gets very complicated.

Some Eristalis arbustorum have partially rubbed faces and making sure this is rubbing and not a facial stripe is often a problem. Separating E. arbustorum from E. abusiva is very tricky and is dependent upon the length of the hairs on the arista and the colour of the middle tibia (partially darkened in E. arbustorum and almost clear yellow in E. abusiva). We do see exceptional photographs that capture these characters nicely, but they are the exception and so many of these examples only get as far as Eristalis sp.

Very occasionally, we see specimens of what appear to be quite large animals with dark feet but no band of eye hairs and a very distinct pale base to the tibiae. If the thoracic pleurae are well depicted, and the hind femur is clearly shown, then sometimes we can detect ashy dusting of the pleurae and of the hind femur – Eristalis similis; but beware – confusion with (especially) E. nemorum is possible and I have seen quite eminent Diptersts make this mistake (and have done so myself).

Finally, there is Eristalis cryptarum. In theory this should be easy to identify from photographs because it has completely orange hind tibiae. In practice, I'm not sure that it would be recognised as an Eristalis from some angles and on the one occasion I encountered it in the wild I did not recognise it immediately! This one needs careful checking because it is confined to a very small part of southern Dartmoor!

In making a diagnosis, it is always worth bearing in mind that there are further species in Europe that complicate matters. Although we do not expect them to occur in the UK, they might just be here and undetected; that would complicate matters very seriously!

Wednesday, 23 August 2017

Why record common species?



From time-to-time participants in the UK Hoverflies Facebook group question the value of reporting common species. Is it necessary or of any value? My consistent response is that it is and that we do value records of common species just as much as those of rarer species. Why might this be?

Assessing rarity for conservation status


As a starting point, we need to think about rarity - it is a relative value. If something is rare, we need to be able to quantify it. When the early Red Lists for the UK were compiled, a set of somewhat arbitrary values were used to define species of conservation concern. They were based on the numbers of 10km grid squares in which a given species was found. Broadly speaking, anything that was known to occur in more than 15 10km squares could not be assigned Red Data Book status. Those that occurred in 15 to 30 squares could be listed as Notable A (now Nationally Scarce A) and from 31 to 100 squares as Notable B (Nationally Scarce B). These latter statuses are a UK construct and are not used elsewhere.

This approach is based upon comprehensive geographic coverage, which is really only possible for plants in the UK. It becomes much more complicated for invertebrates, which are comparatively under-recorded. So there is a need to use the guidelines with a modicum of expert judgment. In the case of hoverflies, we looked at overall coverage and concluded that as the Hoverfly Recording Scheme (HRS) has data for about 90% of 10km grid squares; setting the threshold at 90 squares for the maximum for Nationally scarce is probably about right. The threshold may have to be reduced still further for other families of flies where coverage is more patchy.

Assessing changes in species abundance


Species status assessment has evolved and IUCN guidance now works on the size and vulnerability of populations. So, a species that has a small range but a stable population is probably under less threat than a species with a wider range that is showing signs of declining abundance. How do we test for declining abundance when all we have is a set of maps and data that are collected in an ad-hoc manner?

There have been a great number of attempts to develop models that interpret such data, but the developing norm works on occupancy models that take account of the recording effort. For these models to work effectively we need data for both common and rarer species so that the model can test the degree to which presence or absence is likely to be a function of biogeographic or recording factors.

Importance in legal challenges


At a simpler scale, we need to think about the ways in which proponents of development projects play down the importance of seemingly rare species. It is dead easy to undermine species statuses by simply presenting coverage maps for less well recorded taxa and emphasising the gaps. Many of those gaps might be filled with records of commoner species that have not been logged. So, at this very simple scale, logging common species can help to improve general coverage and thus reinforce the importance of rarer species.

Detecting change


Conservation policy now revolves strongly around rates of decline. There are good data for farmland birds so the declines in these species are readily detectable and as a result the BAP process placed a lot of emphasis on these species. Unfortunately, we know that about 40% of invertebrates (in those taxa that can be interpreted) have also suffered similar declines. They are not represented in Priority lists that are now enshrined in law. Why? Well, as a starting point, birds have a very strong advocate that was able to push away important invertebrate contenders. But, the critical issue lies in levels of coverage and the degree to which analysis is regarded as reliable. Fewer data and more patchy coverage undermines confidence in the analysis.

Perhaps more importantly, change is most likely to be detected at an early stage when one looks at common species. The bigger the dataset, the more likely change is going to be detected. So, if a species is recorded half a dozen times each decade any fluctuation is unlikely to be detected because a rise or fall of one individual can disproportionately alter the statistics. Conversely, if there are hundreds or perhaps thousands of records of another species each year, any increase or decline is likely to be mirrored in a comparable proportion of the records received. Thus, commoner species are actually the bellwether of change (both positive and negative).

Does it matter?


The HRS is not simply a mapping tool. Data compiled are used in a wide variety of analyses; ranging from Species Status Reviews and the Wildlife Statistics produced by the NGOs, to analysis of pollinator abundance by various university groups.

Until Stuart retired, the HRS data were used on a regular basis to develop models that examine changes in both abundance and distribution. We still get asked for access to data for similar purposes, so we must hope that such work is ongoing. The better the data, the more likely it is that the outputs will be believed.

Thursday, 17 August 2017

DNA sequencing - the solution to recording problems?


There was a bit of controversy on the UK Hoverflies Facebook page yesterday. Debate about the ethics and/or importance of retaining specimens led to an assertion by one contributor that collecting for recording was an anachronism and that it could be replaced by DNA analysis of a leg taken from a live insect!

The concept provides rich food for thought. Are we at that stage yet? If so, is it or will it be a viable option?

As far as I am aware, we are a long way off having a full database of DNA sequences for many animals and the prospects of assembling such sequences for bigger Orders such as the Diptera are a very long way away. There are initiatives to start the process, but they are fraught with problems; not least that traditional killing agents degrade DNA, so the only viable option is to take fresh specimens and freeze them. That is relatively simple for easily recognised species, but once one enters the realm of difficult taxa it is likely to lead to the need to take and kill very large numbers of individuals to track down the missing pieces. The sheer scale of the job is immense and is not going to be achieved in the near future. It is further complicated because the specimens must be stored in close to pure ethanol – which is not readily available to anyone other than registered labs.

That starts the thread of a bigger problem


Which gene sequences are the most useful for separating particular taxa? There has been a lot of work on the CO1 gene in hoverflies, but this gene is not without its limitations. I suspect there is a lot more to do before we can reliably separate some species using DNA sequencing.

BUT, I think the most worrying complication is the degree to which identification errors are already entering the system. Dipterists in the UK have been shocked by some examples of gene sequencing from other parts of the World, with the authors describing sequences for what are clearly species within a different FAMILY let alone genus! The genie is out of the bottle and it is going to take a fair while to put it back and then release it under control.

What about DNA as a way of recording?


The idea is great. You buy your portanble gene-sequencer and catch insects that go into the sequencer and out pops a record! What happens to the insect? I suspect early sequencers will be fairly invasive and the animal will suffer serious injury or death. The idea of removing a leg from a fly 3mm long whilst keeping the animal alive is going to be dependent upon the dexterity of the operator. I suspect there will be large numbers of maimed and dying insects! Why not the old system of hand lens and holding the insect in ones fingers as specialists do at the moment for moderately doable species?

I suspect what is more likely is that in time it will be possible to put an insect soup into a sequencer and get a long species list of those that can be identified, plus a tail of question marks that cannot be identified and will never be identified because the animal has been liquidised!

What is the way forward?


There is no doubt that there is a need for a major gene sequecing programme, and that existing specialists will need to engage in the process. Many of us have already done so in some capacity. It remains to be seen how fast progress is made, but the days when there is no need for the microscope and pinned specimens are some way off.

Critically, if DNA sequencing is to be anything more than a dream, we need to grow a new generation of taxonomically competent specialists. They will have to provide the technical know-how in terms of reliable species identifications to confirm what gene-sequencing tells us. Traditional taxonomists are likely to be needed for a very long way into the future! The Universities are not doing this. I'm not sure they ever did, really. The skill of the taxonomist is the result of many years' work after graduation: getting to know their subject area in intimate detail. Such skills may once have lain in Universities, but to a large extent they were the territory of museums. Those jobs have largely gone too.

In the UK perhaps as much as 80% of the technical know-how resides in the non-vocational sector (amateurs). We must therefore make sure that taxonomic skills survive until Nirvana is attained. The HRS is doing its bit by running training courses and in its use of the UK Hoverflies Facebook page to mentor new taxonomic specialists. Taxonomic expertise is at a premium and needs to be valued and nurtured if the aspiration of developing a complete DNA sequence library is ever to be achieved.

Take nothing but photographs?


The issue of retaining specimens is one that will never go away. Some believe that one should take nothing but photographs and leave nothing but footprints. This mantra has existed for a couple of decades, and has become very firmly embedded. Others, perhaps an 'old school', are more relaxed about retaining specimens of invertebrates; and then there are the specialist taxonomists whose experience points to a continuing need for retaining specimens. Who is right? Or, is there a 'right' and wrong' answer?

BWARS have produced their own policy on specimen retention and rightly point to the need for restraint. They also highlight the dilemma that faces the serious specialist – your subject area is fascinating, and the animals are delightful, so why kill them? In my case, I gave up moths many years ago because I no longer felt that I could justify specimen retention on the grounds that I was not adding much to science and that my collection would not be wanted by a museum. Moreover, I was confident at the time, that with a small number of critical exceptions I could cope with live specimens. Thirty years on, I find I have forgotten everything about moths and they cause me a headache! I've not got the time and energy to go back through the learning process again!

Do we need to retain specimens at all - Where is the evidence?


The view that photography alone will suffice is reinforced because people can now take a photograph and post it on one of the specialist Facebook groups or iSpot. In many cases they will get a name, either complete or partial. Whether the determination is correct is another matter! Unfortunately, there is very little in the peer-reviewed literature that quantifies the issues. I have tried to provide some basic statististics but my patheitic attempts were met with reviewer comments ranging from 'of little scientific importance' to 'grossly misleading and wrong'. One reviewer ranted that at best 10% of hoverflies could be reliably identified from photographs. I gave up trying to produce something to fill one of the gaps!

Yet, I have good data from nearly ten years of extracting records from photographs. Those data now comprise perhaps as many as 100,000 records (approximately 10% of what has been assembled by the Hoverfly Recording Scheme over 40 years). I also have a good run of personal records that have been collected consistently over 30 years (maybe 40,000 records). So some comparison can be made. Similarly, there are now several recorders who are primarily photographers, but who also retain specimens that they send to me for determination. These three models can be compared, although scientific purists would argue that one really needs to compare photographic data with data derived from a rigid trapping protocol.

Are hoverflies a useful model for evaluating the potential of photographic recording?


Hoverflies are one of those 'in-between' groups. Some are relatively straightforward to identify from photographs, providing the photograph is of sufficient resolution to evaluate form and markings. Even so, we occasionally see photographs of relatively straightforward species that cannot be firmly identified. A far greater proportion can be identified on occasions, but unless critical features are well depicted we will struggle to get any further than generic level. There are then the genera that cannot be identified from photographs at all. For example, many male Platycheirus are determined on the basis of pits on the undersides of their feet – those are not depictable in live animal photographs. Some species can only be done from the internal structures within the male genital capsule (e.g. Sphaerophoria). Others are simply fiendishly difficult without access to comparative material (and even then cause problems).

We must also remember that we have a typical 'island fauna' that is a sub-set of a bigger continental fauna. Our 284 species of hoverfly compares with over 800 species in Europe. The fauna's of our near-neighbours in The Netherlands and Belgium are perhaps 20% bigger, even though their land area is much smaller. It makes our job easier, but we also forget that we may well be overlooking cryptic species amongst species that we currently believe to be one 'easily identifiable' species. Eristalis is one potential problem area.

What do the data tell us?


A post on this blog earlier this month provides some indication of the sorts of differences that can be seen when photographic data are compared with data collected by a specialist. The most significant differences was in the relative importance of Cheilosia in the specialist dataset and the much higher representation of Pipizella and Paragus in that dataset.

The overall message is that photography can, and does, generate a large number of valuable records. Photographic recorders also ensure much wider geographical coverage, and will find species that occur at very low densities that are not well represented in the specialist dataset. The data are, however, a sub-set of the overall fauna. 

Does it matter


If you are a naturalist who simply wants to know roughly what the animal or plant you have seen is, then the quality of identification is not a huge issue. It might mean that the 'lister' achieves longer or shorter lists depending upon the level of caution used in coming to a determination.

The issues start when data are used for other purposes such as site safeguard and development of species conservation strategies. If data are skewed then it is easy for developers to undermine the confidence that can be placed on individual records and on the conservation status of species. This has always been a problem for invertebrates and they are still very much a Cinderella area. To the best of my knowledge there remain no SSSI based solely on invertebrates; yet there probably should be. In the days of NCC and English Nature it was an uphill battle to get invertebrates the recognition they deserved. When BAP was developed, a huge list of birds went on as priority species, yet invertebrates that had undergone similar levels of decline were rejected because the data were believed not to be reliable.

Thus, the message has to be, if you want to see invertebrates properly conserved, you need robust data. We just about manage this for hoverflies, but getting similar levels of coverage and detail for, say, fungus gnats or craneflies is impossible. Why? Because they rely on high magnification and often upon characters that cannot be seen in photographs. Perhaps more importantly, because there are a handful of specialists capable of identifying them and those specialists (wisely) will not spend their lives glued to a computer screen identifying photographs. And, finally, not all insects are large and charismatuic. Many are minute and difficult to find.The generalist photographer will not find them and even the competent specialist may miss them unless they take a large sample. Those species make up a significant part of our fauna but will not get the recognition they deserve unless they are properly recorded.